In this insightful conversation, Glenn Loury, an economist and public intellectual, delves into his life experiences, career journey, and evolving perspectives on race, economics, and Christianity.
He also discusses the increasing mental health issues among undergraduates, the influence of music on his life, and his personal battle with drug addiction.
Career Shift and Motivations
Loury’s career transition from economic theory to political punditry was driven by a fear of failure and a desire for acclaim.
This realization emerged as he confronted his motivations while writing his memoir, underscoring the importance of introspection in understanding one’s career choices.
Theoretical Economics and Career Trajectory
Loury’s early career was rooted in theoretical economics, focusing on the pricing of natural resources and the implications of monopolies.
His initial vision was to be an applied theorist, contributing to the academic community through his research and writings.
Evolving Relationship with Christianity
Loury discusses his evolving relationship with Christianity, acknowledging its role as a source of strength and guidance in his life.
Despite his struggles with doubt and skepticism, he finds solace and meaning in his faith.
Those people who are languishing in the ghettos, the housing projects, the lockups, the emergency rooms of the hospital wards… those people are us. They’re our people. Those are Americans. They are us. That’s us. It’s not them. That’s what I’d like them to understand. – Glenn Loury
Desire to Understand Low-Income Black Communities
Loury expresses a desire to better understand the experiences of low-income black communities.
He acknowledges his limited understanding of their struggles and frustrations, highlighting the need for more factually grounded empathy.
The Power of Music
Music, particularly Bebop era Jazz and the Chicago R&B tradition, has played a significant role in shaping Glenn Loury’s life and worldview.
He acknowledges the global influence of various music genres and artists, demonstrating the universal language of music.
Mental Health Crisis in Academia
The escalating mental health issues among undergraduates are attributed to the intense academic and career pressures they face.
The drive to excel and be in the top percentile creates significant stress, which is further amplified by the unique pressures experienced by black students at top-tier institutions.
Self-Delusion and the Importance of Honesty
Writing his memoir led Loury to confront his past and the decisions he made.
He acknowledges his tendency towards self-delusion, emphasizing the importance of honesty and self-awareness in personal growth and development.
Critique of Journalism and Creative Arts
Loury criticizes journalism and creative arts for their failure to accurately portray life in low-income black communities.
He argues that the narratives often serve a progressive political agenda, rather than reflecting the realities of these communities.
Differences with John McWhorter
Loury identifies key differences between himself and John McWhorter, a linguist and political commentator.
He suggests that McWhorter is more concerned with peer opinions and less willing to engage in controversial discussions, highlighting the importance of intellectual independence.
Race, Empathy, and Understanding
Loury emphasizes the need for empathy and understanding in discussions about race.
He criticizes the lack of empathy from both sides of the political spectrum and underscores the importance of recognizing the shared humanity of all Americans, regardless of their socio-economic status.
I’ve learned that my capacity for self-delusion is almost unbounded and it’s a very dangerous thing too because I had persuaded myself of everything other than the real story. – Glenn Loury
Influence of Loury’s Wife
Loury’s wife is his strongest critic on race, urging him to focus more on the structural economic issues that contribute to inequality.
She challenges him to confront the underlying power dynamics that perpetuate inequality and privilege.
Personal Struggles with Drug Addiction
Loury candidly shares his personal battle with drug addiction, specifically crack cocaine.
He discusses the initial euphoria and the subsequent shame, highlighting the destructive nature of addiction and the importance of recovery.
